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LIAISON COMMITTEE
Motion made, and Question put forthwith, pursuant to Standing
Order No. 145(3) (Liaison Committee),
That this House agrees with the Report [16th May] of the Liaison
Committee.[Mr. Jim Murphy.]
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Catherine Meyer
Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House do now
adjourn.[Mr. Jim Murphy.]
10.52 pm
Mr. Keith Vaz (Leicester, East): I am grateful for the opportunity
to raise in the House the case of Catherine Meyer, whose two
sons were abducted by her former husband eight years ago,
in 1994. This is a tragic case. It is impossible to imagine
the pain and suffering that this mother has had to go through
over the last few years. It has been described as torture.
As the parent of two young children, one the same age as Lady
Meyer's children when she last had custody of them, I can
only dare to imagine how awful must be her grief. I know that
the Minister also has young children, so he will know what
I mean when I say this.
Although this debate will focus on one case, it is one case
among manyfar too many. The House has debated the subject
of child abduction before. The right hon. Member for Tonbridge
and Malling (Sir John Stanley) raised the issue on 24 October
2000 when he called for a review of The Hague convention.
The hon. Member for Aylesbury (Mr. Lidington) also raised
the issue in respect of his constituent Lawrence Horne, on
22 April 1999. The shadow Attorney-General, the hon. Member
for Stone (Mr. Cash), has also talked about child abduction
with his usual passion. We can change the names of the children,
and the facts, but we seem unable to change the results.
Two Departments have responsibility for these matters: the
Foreign and Commonwealth Office and the Lord Chancellor's
Department; the Home Office also has a remit. This case has
also been raised at the highest levels by President Chirac
in 1997, President Clinton in 2000, and President Bush in
2001. Lady Meyer's husband is, of course, Her Majesty's ambassador
to Washington.
We are also dealing with real gaps in an international convention,
the complete failure of the German courts to bring justice
to the situation, and the manipulation by their father of
the emotions and the psychology of two young children. Dr.
Hans Peter Volkmann has behaved appallingly in robbing his
own children of their childhood.
This sad story began eight years ago. Catherine Meyer, a
British citizen, had a legal separation agreement from her
husband, Dr. Volkmann. She had legal custody of the children
from the German court by a notarised separation agreement.
It was 6 July 1994, and the two boys, Alexander aged nine
and Constantine aged seven, were living with their mother
in London. They went on a routine access holiday to be with
their father in Germany.
On 24 August, four days before the children were due home
in London, Dr. Volkmann wrote a 21-page letter telling Lady
Meyer that he would not be returning the children to London
and that he had applied for custody of the boys. Attempts
by their mother to reach them by telephone were thwarted by
Dr. Volkmann, who repeatedly said that they were not available.
When she eventually spoke to Alexander, he said to her, "I'm
German. I have to go to a German school."
There then began a history of court action, which continues
to this day. It makes me wonder about the principles that
underpin German justice. Dr. Volkmann's application for custody
of the children was rejected by a court in Verden on 24 August
1994, but in spite of that
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he decided to keep the children in Germany. He simply ignored
the ruling. On 31 August, the High Court in London ruled the
retention illegal and ordered the immediate return of the
children. It also made them wards of court. A month later,
the Verden court upheld the British order and ordered the
immediate return of the children to the United Kingdom under
the terms of The Hague convention, with help from the court
bailiffs if necessary.
The father asked for half an hour to say goodbye to the children,
and Lady Meyer's lawyer agreed. Volkmann and his family went
to the café where the boys were waiting and threw them
into the back seat of a waiting car. The car sped away to
the town of Celle, where his family had influence. He immediately
lodged an ex-parte application against the Verden decision.
Neither Lady Meyer nor her lawyer was informed; they were
simply not represented.
In November 1994, the appeal court in Celle reversed the
two previous decisions and ruled that the children remain
in Germany, as they were suffering in a foreign environment
because German was not spoken at home or at school. The judges
also deemed that the children, then aged seven and nine, were
mature enough to have their views taken into account. By that
time, Lady Meyer had not seen them in more than four months
and they were under the exclusive control of their father
and his family. In March 1995, the German Constitutional Court
rejected her appeal.
The Lord Chancellor's Department told Lady Meyer that there
was little it could do and that she was now in the hands of
the local German courts, to which she should apply for custody
and access. Since 1994, Lady Meyer has tried repeatedly, and
failed, to find redress in the German courts. Not only were
her sons not returned to England, but she has been denied
normal access to them for the entire eight years since their
illegal retention in Germany.
The boys are now 17 and 15. Since summer 1994, she has been
allowed to see her sons for a grand total of 25 hoursonly
in Germany, usually in her ex-husband's house or on the premises
of the Verden youth authority and on only three occasions
without a member of the father's family or a German bureaucrat
present.
The last visit was in early 1999, and the situation has gone
from bad to worse. Lady Meyer is now forbidden to see her
children until 2003. Then, she will no longer be able to apply
for access under German law as her sons will be over 16. The
handling of her case by the German courts and the youth authority
has comprised a mix of bias, incompetence and malice, but
the heart of the problem has been the creation of facts by
the German courts, which justify subsequent decisions favouring
her ex-husband. Central to that has been delay.
From the very beginning, the slowness of court proceedings
has given her ex-husband ample opportunity to manipulate the
children against her. It has taken up to a year to make a
decision on access applicationsnot custody applications,
but applications for access. Statements are extracted from
the children, saying that they do not wish to see her. These
are taken at face value by the German courts, which seem unable
to understand that the will of the children is in fact the
will of the father.
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Dr. Volkmann is therefore able arrogantly to tear up access
agreements and force Lady Meyer to keep making these applications.
For her, this has meant 20 fruitless trips to Germany over
the last eight years, more than 30 applications and the expenditure
of more than £200,000 in legal fees and travel costs.
The more time that elapses without her seeing her children,
the more the courts and the youth authority resort to the
argument that it would be too traumatic for the children to
visit her. The German courts refused to fine Dr. Volkmann
for disobeying access arrangements. In August 2000, a psychologist
made a report after extensive interviews of all parties. His
conclusion was that the children were being negatively influenced
against their mother and that access to the mother should
be resumed immediately in the mother's home. This led to the
first positive decision.
However, Dr. Volkmann immediately appealed against the decision.
A new psychologist was appointed; the mother was not even
interviewed. The latest decision, scrapping all her access
rights until 2003, is based on this very one-sided report.
The situation is not unique. There are many parents who find
themselves in a similar predicament. These cases closely follow
an established pattern. The court registers an agreed programme
of access rights; the abducting parent refuses to abide by
it; the court refuses to enforce it. The victim parent is
required to begin again with new hearings. With the passage
of time, the court relies increasingly on the child's will
and the arguments of trauma of reunion with the left-behind
parent. In too many cases, the victim parent cannot continue,
emotionally and financially trapped in thisvicious cycle.
A few find release in suicide.
I have been alarmed at the number of children who go missing
and are abducted every year. More than 100 children go missing
every day in the United Kingdom. Although most are found or
returned within a few hours, last year in England and Wales
1,300 children were still missing two weeks after they disappeared.
Of these, 750 were from the Metropolitan police area. Some
546 had been abducted; 40 per cent. were victims of parental
abduction. Reunite, whose work I want to commend, informs
us that there was a 58 per cent. jump in the recorded number
of children abducted from Britain between 1995 and the end
of last year. The true figure could be far higher.
The US State Department estimates that at least 1,000 children
are taken from the United States each year by a non-American
parent without the consent of the other parent. In a parliamentary
reply, the Lord Chancellor's Department informed us that,
in respect of signatories to The Hague convention, there were
1,314 cases of abduction reported and 668 of these had been
returneda 51 per cent. success rate. It came as no surprise
to me that Germany had 80 cases of abduction and a success
rate of only 35 per cent., one of the worst figures of any
country.
What now can be done to resolve the situation? First, I want
ministerial action at the highest levels between Britain and
Germany on the issue. I shall be writing to the Prime Minister
today to ask him to raise this case directly with Chancellor
Schroder. Germany is an EU member, a signatory to the convention
and a close ally of Britain. We know that the courts are independent
of
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Government, but they are supposed to exist in order to ensure
that justice is done, not that national interests are served.
There was rightly a lot of Government anger over the detaining
of the British planespotters in Greece. I would like to see
some ministerial anger over this. I will ask again before
the summer recess what action has been taken to follow it
up.
Secondly, I want the Lord Chancellor's Department to do much
more. I know that Ministers in the Department treat the issue
very seriously indeed. The area of justice and home affairs
is ripe for co-operation, and no issues of sovereignty are
at stake. Let us have some positive judicial co-operation.
I know that the German Justice Ministry has been reformed
in its dealing with Hague cases, and that is thanks to the
campaigning of Catherine Meyer and others.
Surely the courts and judges in the two countries can talk
to one another about the issue and produce some positive results.
Perhaps we can offer some judicial training in child care
law to those in the German courts who would like it. We need
to learn from the administrative mistakes that have been made.
It would be helpful if the Lord Chancellor's Department could
ask the German authorities to review the conduct of the German
courts in this case. I shall write to the German Chancellor
to ask him to raise the matter directly with the German chief
justice.
Thirdly, this must be seen as a human rights issue. What
advice can the Government give to Lady Meyer on pursuing the
matter in the European Court of Human Rights, and what are
we to do about The Hague convention? It is a pointless exercise
to sign, as Germany has done, without any inclination to ensure
that the articles are actually followed.
Fourthly, I would like the Minister to agree to a meeting
between the Foreign Office, the Lord Chancellor's Department
and Lady Meyer. Let us have some joined-up action.
Finally, I would like the Government to support much more
actively the work of non-profit-making organisations. In particular,
I commend the work of PACT, the organisation founded by Catherine
Meyer as a result of her terrible ordeal. She is a courageous
woman who has dedicated the past eight years of her life to
her beloved sons. PACT stands for Parents and Abducted Children
Together, and its website is at www.pact-online.org. It exists
to give information and advice to those who suffer the horror
of having their children abducted and seeks to raise the profile
of cases and of the subject generally in a positive and constructive
way. Lady Meyer may not be able to help herself, but she intends
to help others.
Lady Meyer wrote a book entitled "Two Children Behind
a Wall", chronicling her attempts to be reunited with
her sons. Her love for her children is of course never-ending.
She ends her book with a moving message to her young sons:
"I have nothing left but my life to give you. This book
is the only way I have left to communicate my indestructible
boundless love for you. When you grow up and you are free
perhaps you will read these words and understand. I do not
know why life has burdened us with such a fate. I only know
that even in my helplessness I will never abandon you . .
. I will always be there for you but until the day when we
are together againand we will beyou must have
faith. Till then sleep well, and let us meet in your dreams.
In the dark at least our thoughts are our own to hold and
to cherish and we can laugh again. For ever yours, Mummy."
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I urge the Minister not to abandon this mother, and the Government
to do what they can to help her and thousands of others who
suffer because of the cruelty and spite of people such as
Hans Peter Volkmann and the administrative failures of the
German court system.
11.9 pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Foreign and
Commonwealth Affairs (Mr. Denis MacShane): I congratulate
my hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, East (Mr. Vaz) on
securing this debate on the case of Lady Catherine Meyer,
the mother of two children who were wrongfully retained in
Germany by their father following an access visit in 1994.
I congratulate him not only on the powerful case that he has
made but on the way in which he has set it in the broader
context of children who are abducted and disappear. Those
of us who believe that family life should occupy an increasing
rather than decreasing part in our society should be grateful
to him.
I want to place on the record my admiration for my hon. Friend's
persistence in this as in other matters relating to the right
of mothers to be with their children. As children, we all
learn to speak what is called a mother tongue. In today's
world, the right of mothers to be mothers to their children
is usually afforded primacy in law and custom, but this case
is a grave and serious exception to that general rule. No
one should doubt how seriously every decent European citizen
would, once familiar with the details of the case as laid
before the House tonight, regard the conduct of German lawyers
in seeking to deny what Germans call Mutterrecht. The right
of a mother to be a mother must be considered.
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising this important
and distressing issue, and his initiating this debate is an
indication of his commitment to Lady Meyer's case. As he said,
there has been extensive parliamentary and public interest
in it, and I welcome the opportunity to set out the action
that the Government and we in the Foreign and Commonwealth
Office have taken so far on Lady Meyer's behalf.
As my hon. Friend pointed out, Lady Meyer's children were
wrongfully retained in Germany by her ex-husband, following
a contact visit in 1994. Before that, Lady Meyer had full
custody under the terms of the separation agreement, and her
husband had access rights. The High Court in England and Wales
ordered the return of the children and made them wards of
court. Initially, the lower courts in Germany made an order
to return the children to the UK under The Hague convention,
which governs the handling of abducted children by European
countries.
In Lady Meyer's case, the initial decision of the German
lower courts was overturned by the higher regional court,
without her being present. Lady Meyer appealed against the
decision, but lost in the German constitutional court in 1995.
At that point, The Hague convention route was effectively
dead. Lady Meyer therefore had no choice but to apply for
contact with her children through domestic court processes
in Germany. To aid those applications, the children ceased
to be wards of court in the UK.
As my hon. Friend recounted in distressing detail, Lady Meyer
has pursued applications for contact since November 1994.
However, she has been permitted to see
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her children for a total of just 24 hours throughout this
period. Various contact orders have been awarded in Lady Meyer's
favour, but the German courts have not enforced them. I believe
that that is contrary to all European norms.
It is important to understand how Her Majesty's Government
can assist families affected by child abduction. In broad
terms, responsibility for assisting such families is divided
into two areas: Hague convention cases and non-Hague convention
cases. The Lord Chancellor's Department is the lead Department
for abductions to and from Hague convention countries in England
and Wales; Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own central
authorities. The FCO is the lead Department for non-Hague
convention countries.
The Hague convention on the international aspects of child
abduction is a multilateral treaty. It seeks to return children
who have been abducted abroad to their country of habitual
residence, where issues of custody and contact can be resolved
through the courts. It seeks to protect children from the
harmful effects of international child abduction by providing
a procedure to bring about their prompt return.
As I said, the FCO is the lead Department for non-Hague convention
cases. Where The Hague convention is not in force between
two countries, families of abducted children must pursue court
proceedings in the foreign country to gain contact with, or
custody of, them. The FCO provides support for parents who
are pursuing contact or custody cases through the domestic
courts of another country, but it also gets involved in Hague
convention cases in which diplomatic intervention could expedite
progress. That is why the FCO has been closely involved in
Lady Meyer's case. Since January 2000, formal representations
to the German authorities have been made on at least four
occasions. Those have included correspondence to the German
authorities from our ambassador in Berlin, our chargé
d'affaires in Berlin and Baroness Scotland. Other embassy
and consulate-general staff have been closely involved in
negotiating a compromise between the children's father, the
court in Celle, and the lawyer appointed by the Celle court
to look after the children's interests.
Although I do not have direct ministerial responsibility
for Germany, I know the country and its Chancellor, and I
believe that the denial of Mutterrechtthe right of a
mother to be a motheris not acceptable in a modern,
tolerant, liberal Europe. I give the House my assurance that
I will give my personal support to the case. It is the considered
view of the Foreign Office that the German courts have been
incapable of dealing fairly and objectively with the unique
circumstances of Lady Meyer's case. She has been treated unsympathetically.
Mr. Vaz: I am most grateful to my hon. Friend for his remarks
and appreciate greatly his support. Will he agree to convene
a meeting with the Lord Chancellor's Department and Lady Meyer
so that both Departments can be involved in helping her to
pursue the next steps?
Mr. MacShane: The Foreign and Commonwealth Office stands
ready to work with Lady Meyer on the next steps of her case
and looks forward to discussing that with her. I shall convey
my hon. Friend's suggestion to my
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ministerial colleagues in the Foreign Office with direct
responsibility for the matter, because it would be a sensible
way to take matters forward.
Lady Meyer has clearly been active and energetic in pursuing
contact rights to her sons. We will continue to provide assistance
to Lady Meyer wherever possible and whenever she requests
it. It is extraordinarily sad that Lady Meyer has been unable
to secure substantial contact rights to see her sons. It is
hard to accept that in a democratic, tolerant Europe that
respects the rule of law this case has to be brought to the
attention of the public authorities in such a way.
Lady Meyer's case is, in the experience of the Lord Chancellor's
Department, atypical. There are currentlythankfullyno
other cases in which British parents are suffering the same
level of difficulties as Catherine Meyer, though parents of
other nationalities are. While there have in the past been
administrative difficulties concerning Hague convention cases
in Germany, Germany has overhauled the court system that deals
with Hague convention cases. The German Ministry of Justice
recently reduced the number of courts dealing with cases under
The Hague convention from 600 to 24 on the basis that fewer
judges will lead to greater expertise. Those changes are welcome
and they have come about not least because of the work done
bilaterally by the Lord Chancellor's Department. But they
are long overdue and it is a matter of deep regret that they
are too late to help Catherine Meyer and other, non-British,
parents in their predicament. We hope nevertheless that they
will ensure that parents in future will not suffer what Catherine
has suffered.
The answer lies in a common European system. That requires
a decision, agreed by all EU member states, that the rules
of unanimity mean that just one countryin this case,
Germanycan exercise its veto to prevent a fair and just
system
from coming into operation. Those hon. Members who always
insist on national rules and systems, and the right of veto
uber alles, so to speak, may reflect on what happens when
national egoism prevails over a greater need for justice.
As my hon. Friend has stated, Lady Meyer has tried to use
her difficult experience to help others. She has been the
driving force behind the establishment of the charity Parents
and Abducted Children TogetherPACT. I would like to
take this opportunity to pay tribute to Lady Meyer's work
with PACT and to welcome the presence on the Front Bench of
my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House who, while Foreign
Secretary, gave his strong personal support to Lady Meyer's
case.
Returning to Lady Meyer's case, I am confident that the Foreign
and Commonwealth Office has provided Lady Meyer with appropriate
advice and consular assistance. My noble Friend Baroness Scotland,
when she was a Minister at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office,
showed an active interest in Lady Meyer's case, as did my
hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, East when he was Minister
for Europe. I will ensure that my noble Friend Baroness Amos,
who now has responsibility for this issue, sees a transcript
of tonight's important debate. I hope that the other interventions
by my hon. Friend, which he mentioned earlier, will help to
assist the case.
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Staff at our embassy in Berlin and our consulate-general
in Hamburg have also devoted a good deal of time to assisting
Lady Meyer. We will continue to do what we can to provide
Lady Meyer with support and assistance, and to take a close
interest in her case. It is utterly irrelevant that she is
the wife of one our ambassadors. She speaks as a mother denied
the right to be a mother to her children. That is a crime
against
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motherhood, and the German legal system and those who have
denied her right to be a mother should be thoroughly ashamed
of it. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office stands beside her,
as we stand behind every mother who wants to be a parent to
her sons.
Question put and agreed to.
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